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S\u00e3o Paulo \u2013 Filmmaker Elia Suleiman of Palestine plays some version of himself in all his movies. Currently in Brazil for the second time \u2013 he\u2019d been to Rio de Janeiro in 2003 -, Suleiman accepted the Humanity Award at the S\u00e3o Paulo International Film Festival<\/a>. Besides directing and acting, he handles screenwriting and production for his films. He spoke with ANBA about \u201cIt Must Be Heaven\u201d \u2013 his latest offering and a possible nominee for Best Foreign Language Film in the Academy Awards \u2013, his early career, his creative process, the Palestinian cause and the politics that permeate his work.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt Must Be Heaven<\/em>\u201d is a comical saga featuring Suleiman as a Palestinian who flees his land, only to find that Palestine haunts him wherever he goes, from Paris to New York.<\/p>\n

The film will get distributed in Brazil after the festival, but the release date is still unknown. Mexican actor Gael Garc\u00eda Bernal, who\u2019s friends with Suleiman, is in the cast. Suleiman\u2019s \u201cDivine Intervention\u201d and \u201cChronicle of a Disappearance\u201d \u2013 his first movie \u2013 were also shown in the festival. Check out the interview below.<\/p>\n

ANBA \u2013 How did you first start working in cinema?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Elia Suleiman<\/strong> – I got in through the back door. I didn\u2019t know much at all. I sensed that I could do it but had many misgivings. I had no previous involvement with cinema. It was like doing homework. I didn\u2019t understand what [the movies meant]. As a child I\u2019d only watch the mediocre movies, the semi-commercial movies.<\/p>\n

I guess that early on I was driven to challenge these distorted representations of what it means to be Palestinian, so I was really interested in creating an alternative narrative. I\u2019d watch films that portrayed Palestine in such a stereotypical way, even when [their authors] were sympathetic to the cause, and those who were deeply sympathetic would be particularly racist.<\/p>\n

And then I realized I didn\u2019t have the critical vocabulary to make this critique, so I started reading filmmakers\u2019 books about their own work, and I identified with what they were saying. I\u2019d write down the names of filmmakers whose critical views I liked, like [Luis] Bu\u00f1uel, for instance. And then I spent a year watching movies, two or three a day, and found out about filmmakers who appealed to my way of seeing things. I began to envision a potential in the possibilities that I had.<\/p>\n

Was that in the 1980s?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, 1980s New York. My actual career began in the 1990s. I lived in Nazareth until my teens and left in 1981, 1982. I taught myself in New York; I had no formal training in filmmaking. I live in Paris now, but I never parted ways with Palestine. I go back whenever I can. Not so much now, because my parents have passed, but I still have relations and friends in Nazareth. It\u2019s a small town.<\/p>\n

My relationship and connection are no longer the same since my parents died. I don\u2019t feel I have to go, but I keep going. For this last film we filmed in Nazareth, so I got to spend a lot of time there.<\/p>\n

In your latest film, \u201cIt Must Be Heaven\u201d (97 min, 2019), do you play yourself?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I play myself in all my films. It just happened, out of intuition, since my very first short film in New York. Maybe it\u2019s because of the semibiographical moments I try to capture onscreen. I made this decision and I ended up doing it myself. It was part of the process, of the way you feel when you compose images. It\u2019s more of an intuitive thing.<\/p>\n

And in this movie you deal with the Palestinian issue in Nazareth, Paris and New York as a global issue, is that correct?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cinema brings us all closer. It\u2019s universal, it\u2019s not a local language. I guess my early films were universal, but from a perspective of having been filmed in Palestine. It was more about dealing with Palestine as a cosmos at a universal level.<\/p>\n

This latest one is the opposite. It\u2019s the global reflecting the local, because I think what\u2019s happening now is we have a similar situation wherever we are. It\u2019s not just one place that\u2019s under occupation. There are similarities in the violence and tension everywhere, including in your country. Globalization created this violence that serves the purposes of the few. It\u2019s very similar everywhere we go.<\/p>\n

These unannounced dictatorships that we\u2019re witnessing around the world, if you look at the world today, you read the papers and there\u2019s all this protesting going on, I guess the world is in a state of despair. Look at what\u2019s happening in Chile, Lebanon, Algeria, Iraq or Hong Kong. The people are in the streets for a reason. I guess that\u2019s what the film tries to discuss. Not by being confrontational, but by using humor and the burlesque.<\/p>\n

But I also wanted to deal with the individual rather than the collectivity. With our own personal fragility and alienation in the face of what\u2019s going on around us. Anyone can talk about protests and demonstrations, but we\u2019re having trouble talking about our innermost fears when we wake up in the morning and realize the world is on an unknown and dangerous path. We\u2019re experiencing this fear and this loneliness, yet we\u2019re failing to talk about it in an intimate way.<\/p>\n

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Suleiman accepted the Humanity Award during the S\u00e3o Paulo Film Festival<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

And what was the audience reception like here in S\u00e3o Paulo?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The movie got good reactions. We had a debate and a Q&A session. People came up to me to tell me how much they liked the film. And it\u2019s rewarding to see that your movie \u2013 its language and its message \u2013 travels to different cultures and viewers identify with what it\u2019s trying to say.<\/p>\n

Do you consider yourself more of a director or an actor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019m more of a director than an actor. The acting just comes with the package. If I were an actor, I\u2019d be in movies other than my own.<\/p>\n

Are there many autobiographical elements in your films?<\/strong><\/p>\n

There are autobiographical elements in all my films. I think 99% of what ends up on the screen is something that has some part of my life as a backdrop. But having said that, it\u2019s not a replication of what I experienced. That\u2019s not what it is. It\u2019s more like \u2013 you need to be alert, and you see things happening, and if the desire is there to portray it in a cinematic image, then it becomes an image. But I\u2019m not reenacting my life; I\u2019m basically soaking up the realities around me and they end up on the screen. I can say that much of what you see in my movies comes from actual moments in my life, and the work is about making it aesthetically interesting for the cinema.<\/p>\n

What\u2019s your creative process like? Do you begin with the writing?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, I begin with the writing, by making small day-to-day notes. It\u2019s basically an accumulation of endless notes I make on things I see, ideas, dreams, images I see. It takes years before it takes shape and you realize you have something to say. That\u2019s when I start building on those notes and connecting them.<\/p>\n

You get a feel for what the film can become or where it\u2019s headed, but you can\u2019t tell early on and you need to let it happen. You can\u2019t control it, because if you try, you won\u2019t get the result you expect.<\/p>\n

If you go with it in a meditation-like process, there\u2019s a place deep, deep inside of you that will take you to a cosmos where you become many. When you get to this point, you must have faith that what you\u2019re saying is something that will communicate and identify with the viewer, or the reader.<\/p>\n

If you don\u2019t make that leap, which has risks to it, you\u2019ll become closed off in yourself, and in order to open up you must embrace risk. I think this inner trip is important, it\u2019s a meditative state that brings you closer to the viewer.<\/p>\n

The problem about containing everything with a sense of authority is that the viewer will sense it. Because the viewer can tell that you\u2019re pushing your point of view, and the work comes out more linear. And it\u2019s not as pleasant to them to just get it from you in a kind of impositional way, instead of giving the viewer a chance to share what you\u2019re trying to portray.<\/p>\n

Do you see any similarities between Arab and Latin American cinema?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I must be honest: I don\u2019t know much about Arab cinema. I\u2019ve never been much of a fan of Arab cinema. I\u2019ve become more interested in it lately, with the new generation, which is much more cinematic, more attuned to the universal language of film.<\/p>\n

Although Arab cinema wasn\u2019t an influence, I think movie genres got switched in the last decades. It can be argued that the neorealist genre has been embraced by Brazilian cinema, by Egyptian cinema, and yet it originated in Italy.<\/p>\n

What\u2019s similar is the topics. Latin American cinema is close in what it tries to portray, especially because these two worlds (Arab and Latin American countries) were colonized in some way, so the experience of colonization creates identification.<\/p>\n

Any movie that portrays some kind of injustice, you also identify with it because of the injustice that\u2019s happening somewhere else. Whenever I watch a Latin American movie, I identify with it completely, so long as I also identify with the film\u2019s language.<\/p>\n

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Suleiman in a conversation with the audience in S\u00e3o Paulo<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

How about Palestinian cinema?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I find it difficult to compare Palestinian cinema, because Latin American cinema has this whole cinematic dictionary, and Palestinian filmmaking attempts are too recent.<\/p>\n

But again, I\u2019d say global cinema connects when it deals with certain subjects. What I see is young people leading the cinematic expedition in Palestine and the world. Everywhere I go, I see the effervescence of young people trying to tell stories in a different way, with an alternative narrative. This is very encouraging, even though cinema as a whole isn\u2019t at its finest hour.<\/p>\n

Were your parents also artists?<\/strong><\/p>\n

No. My mother was a teacher and my father was a kind of mechanic. But I guess I was influenced by my family, for example, in the humor that\u2019s in my films. We always had a lot of humor at home. And my brothers were intellectuals; they brought me musical influences. Everything\u2019s not always black and white.<\/p>\n

What do you think is the biggest issue that needs addressing in Palestine today?<\/strong><\/p>\n

In one word: justice. Which they will not get. And I think that\u2019s even harder to get in the world today. You know, a while ago, the wrongdoers, in Israel or anywhere else, the fascists, they used to have to hide their fascist ways. Not anymore. Now they can come out and speak openly anywhere. Look at your country, that\u2019s the worse! Look at Trump, at Eastern Europe, look at all these places, the Middle East, Turkey\u2026 It\u2019s out in the open. They no longer feel intimidated. I think the East and totalitarian regimes around the world no longer have reason to be intimidated with all their criminal and evil doings.<\/p>\n

And through your movies do you seek this justice?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019m asking questions; I\u2019m not preaching justice. I think that when you have the pleasure to view an image, whatever you associate with it can lead you to question a few things around you. Cinema doesn\u2019t solve any problems. It doesn\u2019t offer solutions, it has no influence whatsoever. Perhaps the culmination of art might one day counteract the damage that\u2019s done, but cinema alone can\u2019t do it.<\/p>\n

Watch the trailer for the film.<\/em><\/p>\n